@Math Tonight & @macintosh1257
Yes, this is absolutely on the road map. I plan to add a decision to make Latin your court language, player will be able to take this and AI theocratic rulers will be weighted to be more likely to take this, the Pope being extremely likely to. I hope to find some time to continue development soon! Thank you for the interest and suggestion

@AdcLeon Math Tonight made a good suggestion.

Thank you for developing this mod, I look forward to your updates. Would you be amenable to the idea of setting the Pope's language to Latin so that we can learn it as a foreign ruler? I do not know if the Vatican has a court like kings and emperors do, but historically, the Vatican maintained the use of Latin long after the fall of the Roman empire and wasn't replaced with Italian until the modern era.

Greeting! A great mod, but the old Chinese tran was out of time, so I‘ve retranslated the new Chinese loc inside CK3 mod Chinese loc mod, btw, will there be other mythical artifacts in the future?

would u make a line in the description?

here's my Chinese translation:
https://cs2bus.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3403925213

Fun idea for a mod this. Thanks, will be adding this to my next game.

@macintosh1257
Thanks for the interest, I haven't had much time for development lately but yes I do intend to continue working on this in future to implement the features in the roadmap.

Update!
Mod Version: 1.1.0
- Updated to CK3 1.16.* (Khans of the Steppe)

@AdvLeon You still working on Latin Literacy?

@RVFVS: This isn't a mod issue. I think Paradox has changed the way the Pope is selected. At the moment, when the Pope dies, the new Pope is whatever bishop has the highest learning. Often this results in prince-bishops becoming Pope and their lands becoming permanently attached to the Papal States.

Wish you can learn latin.

Hey all, I’ve been noticing either the papacy or the HRE seems to inherit the same bishoprics all around Europe, I’ve done multiple test games and they always seem to inherit these same disconnected lands. I can’t figure out which mod is causing it so I was thinking this might be it. Anyone else see something like this?

Should Orthodox clergymen know Latin? After all, they'd have to know Latin to be annoyed by 'filioque'.

This is a great mod! I always found it strange that Latin so rare in the game.

Gratias tibi ago, amice

Please report any issues with the rules in the "Bug Reports" thread as this is my first time implementing custom game rules. Thanks!

Hi All! I appreciate all the discussion happening, it's all very interesting, I love the ideas flowing around.

I have just rolled out an update that adds game rules to allow you to tweak the parameters by which Clergy gain the trait, these are:
1. Learning skill: 9, 6, 3, or unrestricted
2. Intellect Traits: Enable or disable Imbecile, Stupid and Slow restricting the event.
3. Pick whether Lazy, Cynical, Both or Neither restrict the event.

Hopefully this allows you more freedom to improve immersion based on your own take on the history.

Next up I'm looking to add a decision to learn Latin from your realm priest, perhaps restricted to Learning and Diplomacy focused characters. Input appreciated if you have thoughts on this.

Thank you for your support.

@The Notorious Garangus
The reason for that was mainly because of the bubonic plague. Before that, priests were generally the smartest person in the town/village, and the only people that could read and write, outside of the lords and ladies.
During the bubonic plague, majority of the priests were among the first to die, due to them caring for and performing the final rites on the sick, and thus getting sick themselves.
After that, the church in a panic to replace the priests they lost, essentially let anyone become a priest provided they could read to an acceptable degree.

Maybe a mechanic change depending on the start date? If you did the 876 start, nearly every priest, both for Catholicism and Orthodoxy should know Latin (especially since historically the great schism didnt occur until 1054). Then after the bubonic plague appears in the playthrough, the mechanic disables and it no longer becomes an active requirement (or the requirements become stricter?)

@yenego if anything it would be the other way around, it was mostly learned to be able to read both from the bible and international literature (like scientific treatises)

This is a great mod! It makes me wonder if knowing Latin infers being able to write it too. I am pretty sure that most people, even rulers, could not write; I recently heard about Alfred the Great though and he seems to be an exception. There must have been more, a good amount in the East too.

An idea I had was to make a trait that shows your ability to write which gives possibility for certain events and modifiers. It would just need to very rare and/or require you to go into scholarly lifestyle probably past even age 16 among other things.

Perhaps an this idea for this mod, expanding on the importance of being literate in Latin. One thing that stopped me is it kind of feels like something Paradox should implement by expanding on languages more to make them less static. A literate/illiterate system that @The Notorious Garangus mentioned. Something more than just a trait would be neat, perhaps it could tie into the much-dreamed-of religion overhaul that I see many players request.

Constantinople had a school which lastet until 1453 which had half its classes/teacher using greek and the other half in latin, this was a regulation imposed by the schools sponsor, the Roman state and its emperors. This school was ancient, but cant remember the name right now, anyone?

@The Notorious Garangus
You're probably correct there.
I think based on the feedback so far I will look into adding game rules so you can pick and choose which elements feel best for you. I'll try and get to that at the weekend :)

I've heard of that excerpt and I think the issue wasn't that priests were lazy, just that many of them were illiterate and were being promoted way higher than their education would have provided them. I guess until Paradox adds a literate/nonliterate system this is the best mods can emulate though.

mmh i'd agree with most of the traits except for Cynical.
A scholar could be incredibly cynical but still want to be capable of reading latin because a lot of texts at the time were in latin.

Oh no, didn't want to argue over it. A game mod is a game mod, it's not a history book :)
Maybe only add it to the main description somewhere as a ... footnote :D:D so people know why it was done this way and not a different way :)

@macluk
I did consider that, here is my reasoning: According to the research I did there was an issue in certain areas of Europe during the medieval period where certain figures complained about the terrible Latin some priests were speaking. I chose to represent this as cynical, lazy or outright dumb priests who basically don't give enough of a damn to learn properly, so they just sound out the words and read out the passages without really learning the language. Hope that makes sense, happy to discuss more :)

Perhaps I can add a game rule that lets the player choose the critera themselves, something to consider!

was just thinking about this other day. Historically, a lot of church services would have been conducted in Latin for hundreds of years by the time this game starts. Nice job!

I would argue that a lazy person can learn it too... albeit either slower or as the only thing in their life they were interested in enough to do quickly :) and cynically :)

Cynical? that definitely would not be an obstacle in learning a foreign language... especially for them lot :)