@织田信长
That's possible, I meant to do a test on admin because there's a couple of things that suggest it's a no no but I never got around to doing so due to constant game updates and rl commitments.

I don't play admin, it just doesn't feel good to me, so I'll have to find time to test it and if my previous suspicions prove true then I'll have to disable the last will aspects as an option for admin.

I discovered that my administrative empire cannot use the Last Will Succession. This is awful!

@無壹
Thanks

@Lost Nomad Hey Nomad, I also translated this mod in Chinese :
https://cs2bus.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3090564070

@Lost Nomad thanks for the detailed response. I'll test this on a future run.

@bamboocarpet
When you abdicate the game handles succession just the same as if you were deposed in a tyranny war or died, so any succession law in place is enacted, regardless whether it is a vanilla law or the realm/title laws from this mod.

As far as being a cheat mod, these are the main features of the mod
1) It allows you to abdicate
2) It allows you to become an adventurer when you abdicate
3) It allows you to become a vassal of your heir when you abdicate
4) It allows your old character to become your vassal when you play your heir after abdication
5) It allows you to play as an independent ruler after you abdicate to your heir
6) It allows you to assign specific titles to specific character when you die/abdicate
7) Using mod's realm law without any of the mod's title laws and selected abdication titles is effectively primo

You have to decide for yourself which if any of those features is cheating and if you want to use any off them.

Does this respect the current succession laws when you choose heirs and such? Really enjoy the thought of abdicating and becoming a vassal, but is it also basically a cheat mod?

Ok, thanks for responding.

@HeirandtheSpare
I haven't had a chance to look at it yet. The functionality in the mod should be fine, I've not heard of any major script issues from other modders that should affect it but there is always a chance the gui side might have an issue.

I will be updating all my mods over the week-end but no specific order in mind so the best I can say is that it will happen over the next couple of days.

Does this need an update?

Legend

@BlindIdiotGod
Glad you got it working

LostNomad

Thanks for the reply.

It IS working. I didn't leave it unpaused long enough to get the event.

It seems I was indeed being really stupid!

Thanks again!

BlindIdiotGod
Add the LastWill succession law to your realm.
Appoint an heir.
Do not select any abdication titles.
Then use abdicate option in your character's diplomacy menu category to abdicate.

In the depose screen you should have two buttons at the bottom, one to choose a new destiny and one to play as your heir.
Click the play as heir button.
When you un-pause the game you will get an event that gives you the option to play your heir or play your existing character as an adventurer.

I'm not sure if I'm being really stupid, but I don't seem to be getting the right event firing - I only get the option to play as my heir. I've tried turning it on and off in the decisions menu, but this seems to have no effect. Interestingly, I don't seem to have the reminder event either.

Is there a specific abdication command to use?

I have this at the bottom of my load order.

Really, all I want to do is abandon my kingship and be an adventurer once more. Life was so much easier on the open road.

@Drakken
No opinions are ruffled.

Interesting. Will the despoiled heirs be pissed off if you grant them a simple barony, while your main heir inherits all?

@Evil_MiniPapaTank
When you say go to your next heir you mean die/abdicate, not cycle through your family characters in a menu or something?

You are supposed to lose LW every time through succession but for some reason I can't track down since 1.13 it sometimes does not lose LW on succession.

I've ran into a glitch that I can't figure, sometimes when I go to my next heir it'll default back to confederate partition. It doesn't happen every time, but like 20%. My powerful vassals will like me, and nothing shows up about losing any counties.

Thats awesome! Thanks a lot :)

@Swirly
LW now lets laamp abdicate so if your child is your heir then they will inherit.

@Swirly
Yes it does although obviously there's no lands to bequeath to your loved ones, but you can abdicate to your child.

However there's a bug n the released version which prevents a adventurer abdicating.

Also I use my designate heir mod, so I need to test if the vanilla game allows abdication otherwise you would be required to use a mod like my designate heir mod.

I should have the bug fixed and an answer to the heir issue within the next day or two so watch this space.

Does this mod also work for landless adventurers? I feel like there's no real reason why the leader of an adventurer camp couldn't just let their child take over the reigns, except for gameplay balancing reasons. I'm looking for a mod that would enable this. Thanks in advance!

@Lost Nomad Thanks for letting me know, I was afraid that would be the case, so only way around that is making compatch mods.

@FunGaming44
The title succession law is in a separate file but you can't add a succession law in a separate file because it has to go in the succession_order_laws block, so there's no point changing the file name. If any mod creates succession_order_laws in a separate file it will overload vanilla due to alphabetic sorting losing all vanilla laws in the process.

Lovin gthis mod glad it got updated, was wondering would it be possible to make it more compatible if only the last_will_succession_law was having it's own file so it wouldnt overwrite any other mod that changes the succession laws file ? No idea if that would work for this like it does for other files

The update took a while but the process has been streamlined to be more efficient and more compatible with other mods and future CK3 updates.

Also includes a new abdication option to become a landless adventurer after passing your realm to your heir.

@Sigil
It's on a long list of mods that need testing and updating.

But just because it has not been updated does not mean it doesn't work, the exclamation mark just means it was written for another game version, so it may still be working if that part of the game has not been changed in the update.

However if you have a specific example of the mod not working where you have tested it in a fresh game with no other mods running, let me know and I can push the mod to the top of the list.

update!

@Kayotik16 it's compatched with Succession Expanded and a whole pile of other mods here
https://cs2bus.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3302249729

@Kayotik16
All you can do is look on the mod workshop pages and hope they gave a list of compatibility issues that line up with the ones I listed, or search each mod folder on your disk for those file names.

The truly frustrating issues would be if they only partially override any of the files under new file names which will be painful to find.

Thanks for the reply yeah i know there some sort of conflict I just have a bunch of mods that’s why i was wondering if there were any known conflicts but ill have to try and fix that when i have time

@Kayotik16
Shouldn't matter where you put it in the playset but firstly start a game with a fresh playset with just Last Will in the playset and if that works without a CTD then you have a mod conflict which will no doubt mean you have to choose between Last Will and whichever mod conflicts with it.

I can't tell you which off your mods would conflict but they will be any mod that modifies the files listed in the compatibility section on this page.

In some cases conflicting mods will simply lose some of their functionality or remove some of the Last Will functionality depending on the mod's position in your playset, but in other cases they may very well cause a CTD.

seems to be crashing my game should i place at the top of the mod list?

Ah that is what I was missing, thank you for clarification.

@ritelite66
CK3 checks the law triggers every tick so you have to select the LW succession law and apply the LW elective law to at least one title while you have the game on pause.

Also even with the game on pause CK3 checks the law triggers whenever you add or remove a title to/from your realm, so you cannot change your realm composition until you have locked in the succession and elective laws.

The steps are simple

1) pause game
2) select LW succession law
3) apply LW elective law to one title
4) elect a character to the title you applied the elective to in (3)

After that you can safely unpause the game and LW will remain locked in place.

But remember if you only apply the elective to one title, which is the bare minimum requirement, LW will revert to whatever your default succession law is if you lose that title.

Been sitting here trying to get this mod to function properly for a while. Despite following all instruction and warnings in the description, every time I select Last Will it just immediately reverts to Confederate Partition.

Ok it just wasn't the most clear imo

@cryptofurball75
huh?

It's all said in the text and screenshots.

It allows you to give all your titles to whomever you want to and additionally abdicate whenever you want to, plus continue playing your abdicated character with some of your titles either as a vassal of your heir or independent.

what exactly does this do?

version 1.2.0 now allows you to gain independence when you abdicate.

@bakerjesse77
I have no idea if the mod works with BM+ but would not be surprised if it does not because BM+ changes so much to vanilla it's a compatibility nightmare.

The LW decisions do not affect availability of the LW realm law, just whether the notification events are on or off.

So I have this mod enabled, and in my decisions tab, there’s a choice to turn off the notifications for the mod, but the option to switch to last will isn’t showing up where it normally did. Does this mod work with More Bookmarks+?

@Comestayin The mod is not completely broken, it works fine for me and others.

Did you read the description properly?

If there are any changes to your titles list such as losing a title in a war or through external inheritance, before you elect a preferred heir to at least one elective title the realm law will be reset, this is a vanilla game issue so there's nothing I can do to stop that which is why you need to do this on pause, at least the first time you enact LW.

But to combat that, subsequent times you add LW realm law you are not charged prestige again. I cannot issue a refund because there is no trigger to say the law has changed.

Also when you die or abdicate you lose LW which is intended to make it less OP.

So if that is your issue, then no the mod is not completely broken, if there's anything else happening please provide a more detailed report of the issue.

The mod is completely broken, it automatically changes the succession to confederate partition immediately, not even refunding the prestige cost.

@T'Moss
Okay I have had a chance to look at your issue and I cannot reproduce it. I have steered my house unity back and forth between friendly and antagonistic with my house succession law changing multiple times such as friendly, unfriendly, harmonious, etc and it did not change my succession law once, so I kept LW through every house succession law change.

I also forced myself to lose LW and I was not charged any prestige when I reinstated LW, I was only charged prestige when I re-added the elective law to the title which is what should happen, so you may be confused over that part.
To be clear, if you lose LW you will not be charged for reinstating LW realm law but you will be charged for adding the LW elective law back to a title that previously had it.

Thanks for the response, will definitely make partition playthroughs more viable

@SausageSnacks
Last Will succession is applied on both death and abdication.

Hi, sorry if I'm not reading this clearly, but do the succession changes from Last Will also occur if your character dies ? Or is it only through your character's abdication in the decision?

@HeirandtheSpare
I don't know if the mods would conflict as I've never looked at IC, so I have no idea what it does. I can only suggest you try it and/or if you understand scripting then have a look at IC to see if it does anything with succession laws, in which case it would likely be a conflict.

As to whether a compatch could be made for both mods, sure compatches can be made for all mods, but it is not something I would do, so you would have to hope the IC dev makes a compatch, something they are not obliged to do, or someone else makes a compatch or you make one yourself.